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	<title>Comments on: Correcting a Rent Offset in an SSI Claim</title>
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		<title>By: Gale Lovelace</title>
		<link>http://www.ssdanswers.com/2008/07/23/correcting-a-rent-offset-in-an-ssi-claim/#comment-9326</link>
		<dc:creator>Gale Lovelace</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Aug 2011 04:42:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There was a comment that SSI is a welfare program and that is why there are so many offsets for income.
actually SSI has WORSE rules than welfare.

When I was on welfare my mother was allowed to pay my rent and utility leaving me with the whole welfare check to take care of my other needs.


of course the welfare check is a pathetic amount of money that NO ONE can expect you to be able to pay anything out of that!
It is horrible that SSI also seems to be &quot;anti family&quot; in that if a family member charges you $200 a month then they cut your check but if you rent in subsidized housing you can keep your whole check
( which you are going to need to pay for  for the alarm system , bullet proof vest and self defense lessons you will need to live in the projects.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There was a comment that SSI is a welfare program and that is why there are so many offsets for income.<br />
actually SSI has WORSE rules than welfare.</p>
<p>When I was on welfare my mother was allowed to pay my rent and utility leaving me with the whole welfare check to take care of my other needs.</p>
<p>of course the welfare check is a pathetic amount of money that NO ONE can expect you to be able to pay anything out of that!<br />
It is horrible that SSI also seems to be &#8220;anti family&#8221; in that if a family member charges you $200 a month then they cut your check but if you rent in subsidized housing you can keep your whole check<br />
( which you are going to need to pay for  for the alarm system , bullet proof vest and self defense lessons you will need to live in the projects.</p>
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		<title>By: Angelina Maya</title>
		<link>http://www.ssdanswers.com/2008/07/23/correcting-a-rent-offset-in-an-ssi-claim/#comment-9325</link>
		<dc:creator>Angelina Maya</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Aug 2011 04:34:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JOrdan
I know exactly what you are going through. It is the reason why so many people on SSI end up homeless.
The people who make these decisions never have to live on so little money themselves.

A friend of mine who is on SSD only rented a room to a friend on SSI only and they cut the SSI person&#039;s check because the rent was &quot;only&quot; 200 i.e. about 1/3 of the check!

There are so many SSI rules that I HATE!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JOrdan<br />
I know exactly what you are going through. It is the reason why so many people on SSI end up homeless.<br />
The people who make these decisions never have to live on so little money themselves.</p>
<p>A friend of mine who is on SSD only rented a room to a friend on SSI only and they cut the SSI person&#8217;s check because the rent was &#8220;only&#8221; 200 i.e. about 1/3 of the check!</p>
<p>There are so many SSI rules that I HATE!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Angelina Maya</title>
		<link>http://www.ssdanswers.com/2008/07/23/correcting-a-rent-offset-in-an-ssi-claim/#comment-9324</link>
		<dc:creator>Angelina Maya</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Aug 2011 04:30:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>to Evelyn
I agree with you that this is horrible! an adult child is certainly safer and probably happier at home with the family they grew up with than in some sort of institution&gt;
Parents should be compensated for child care especially if they have to take time off from a job. 
I had heard that some departments of welfare provided a stipend to people  taking care of disabled  family members.
the reason SSI prefers to pay group homes is the  probably  the same reason insurance companies pay for pharmaceuticals and not natural treatments.
It has to do with these businesses  giving financial support to people running for political office.-the people who make the decisions on what is done w/government money.
group homes are a business just like pharmaceutical companies are.,
The government is all about supporting business and short changing people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>to Evelyn<br />
I agree with you that this is horrible! an adult child is certainly safer and probably happier at home with the family they grew up with than in some sort of institution&gt;<br />
Parents should be compensated for child care especially if they have to take time off from a job.<br />
I had heard that some departments of welfare provided a stipend to people  taking care of disabled  family members.<br />
the reason SSI prefers to pay group homes is the  probably  the same reason insurance companies pay for pharmaceuticals and not natural treatments.<br />
It has to do with these businesses  giving financial support to people running for political office.-the people who make the decisions on what is done w/government money.<br />
group homes are a business just like pharmaceutical companies are.,<br />
The government is all about supporting business and short changing people.</p>
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		<title>By: angelina maya</title>
		<link>http://www.ssdanswers.com/2008/07/23/correcting-a-rent-offset-in-an-ssi-claim/#comment-9323</link>
		<dc:creator>angelina maya</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Aug 2011 04:18:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>SSI is run by a bunch of F*@#$N a*&amp;^%$#@!
they want to give people as little money as possible to live on.
an SSI check wuold not even cover &quot;fair market value&quot; rent unless it was in a tenement building or some sort of section 8 or disabled high rise.
places where you have to worry about your own safety because of your neighbors.

i am trying desperately to get into a situation where I can increase my SSD and not get SSI at all.

SSI s&amp;$@s !!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SSI is run by a bunch of F*@#$N a*&amp;^%$#@!<br />
they want to give people as little money as possible to live on.<br />
an SSI check wuold not even cover &#8220;fair market value&#8221; rent unless it was in a tenement building or some sort of section 8 or disabled high rise.<br />
places where you have to worry about your own safety because of your neighbors.</p>
<p>i am trying desperately to get into a situation where I can increase my SSD and not get SSI at all.</p>
<p>SSI s&amp;$@s !!</p>
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		<title>By: Joan</title>
		<link>http://www.ssdanswers.com/2008/07/23/correcting-a-rent-offset-in-an-ssi-claim/#comment-8917</link>
		<dc:creator>Joan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Dec 2010 14:17:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Social Security FAX fraud: 1 410 597-0118</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Social Security FAX fraud: 1 410 597-0118</p>
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		<title>By: Jordan Opalanie</title>
		<link>http://www.ssdanswers.com/2008/07/23/correcting-a-rent-offset-in-an-ssi-claim/#comment-8739</link>
		<dc:creator>Jordan Opalanie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Aug 2010 23:26:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is an extremely stupid policy. My dad decided to charge me rent of $200, about the same I would pay if I was in subsidized housing. The SSA then decides to cut me down to $480 from the $705 because apparently it is not fair market value. This is going to cause me economic hardship because nobody on SSI CAN AFFORD FAIR MARKET APARTMENTS, ESPECIALLY NOT IN NEW JERSEY.

The law needs to be changed so that the 1/3 deduction only applies if a person pays less than 30% of the monthly FBR on rent (the amount that is generally paid if I have subsidized housing). Reason is, subsidized housing and Secton 8, among other services are HARD TO COME BY. I do realize now that $200 was less than 1/3 of the FBR, but even if my rent was raised to 30% of the FBR, it apparently would still have a 1/3 deduction.

I swear, our benefits system is f-ed to all hell.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is an extremely stupid policy. My dad decided to charge me rent of $200, about the same I would pay if I was in subsidized housing. The SSA then decides to cut me down to $480 from the $705 because apparently it is not fair market value. This is going to cause me economic hardship because nobody on SSI CAN AFFORD FAIR MARKET APARTMENTS, ESPECIALLY NOT IN NEW JERSEY.</p>
<p>The law needs to be changed so that the 1/3 deduction only applies if a person pays less than 30% of the monthly FBR on rent (the amount that is generally paid if I have subsidized housing). Reason is, subsidized housing and Secton 8, among other services are HARD TO COME BY. I do realize now that $200 was less than 1/3 of the FBR, but even if my rent was raised to 30% of the FBR, it apparently would still have a 1/3 deduction.</p>
<p>I swear, our benefits system is f-ed to all hell.</p>
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		<title>By: jt</title>
		<link>http://www.ssdanswers.com/2008/07/23/correcting-a-rent-offset-in-an-ssi-claim/#comment-8673</link>
		<dc:creator>jt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jun 2010 06:12:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I rented from a disabled person who collects  ssi, andcash money for rent. She rented her barn to me , 3yr. Old daughter, and boyfriend we paid $200 a month. Another renter on the property pays her $200 also a month. And she has a mobile home on her property she rents for $1,000 a month. She was getting $1,400 a month and not reporting it.  We moved out but the other two renters are still their. This is not right she has been doing this for years and not reporting the cash income she recieves. Talk about fraud, she even had one of the renters sue her, and she is getting some of the settlement money.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I rented from a disabled person who collects  ssi, andcash money for rent. She rented her barn to me , 3yr. Old daughter, and boyfriend we paid $200 a month. Another renter on the property pays her $200 also a month. And she has a mobile home on her property she rents for $1,000 a month. She was getting $1,400 a month and not reporting it.  We moved out but the other two renters are still their. This is not right she has been doing this for years and not reporting the cash income she recieves. Talk about fraud, she even had one of the renters sue her, and she is getting some of the settlement money.</p>
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		<title>By: gabe morrow</title>
		<link>http://www.ssdanswers.com/2008/07/23/correcting-a-rent-offset-in-an-ssi-claim/#comment-8605</link>
		<dc:creator>gabe morrow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 May 2010 00:10:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Evelyn Clark in your case you need to tell them your gonan start taking $224 a month for room and board on top of whatever amount your currently paying this will give them the maxmium amount possable</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Evelyn Clark in your case you need to tell them your gonan start taking $224 a month for room and board on top of whatever amount your currently paying this will give them the maxmium amount possable</p>
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		<title>By: Evelyn Clark</title>
		<link>http://www.ssdanswers.com/2008/07/23/correcting-a-rent-offset-in-an-ssi-claim/#comment-8175</link>
		<dc:creator>Evelyn Clark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 17:28:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is my confusion with SSI:  My adult daughter is not and will never be able to live on her own or support herself.  She is severely mentally disabled and needs constant supervision. SSI says the amount of support I give her is $224.00, which they deduct from her SSI of $637 monthly. How, if someone needs supervision and cannot live on their own, does SSI justify taking any money? Having someone of her abilities living in a group home or nursing home would surely cost more than $224 a month-but I am sure that would be covered without a question! It seems parents are penalized for wanting to have adult handicapped children in a safe, familiar environment for as long as possible.  Why is this?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is my confusion with SSI:  My adult daughter is not and will never be able to live on her own or support herself.  She is severely mentally disabled and needs constant supervision. SSI says the amount of support I give her is $224.00, which they deduct from her SSI of $637 monthly. How, if someone needs supervision and cannot live on their own, does SSI justify taking any money? Having someone of her abilities living in a group home or nursing home would surely cost more than $224 a month-but I am sure that would be covered without a question! It seems parents are penalized for wanting to have adult handicapped children in a safe, familiar environment for as long as possible.  Why is this?</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan Ginsberg</title>
		<link>http://www.ssdanswers.com/2008/07/23/correcting-a-rent-offset-in-an-ssi-claim/#comment-7944</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonathan Ginsberg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 11:01:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr. Riley&#039;s comment reflects the complexity of the SSI offset calculations.  As noted in the original post, I rarely get involved in SSI claims and when I do take cases, I am focused on winning benefits.  Calculating the offsets requires a different skill set.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. Riley&#8217;s comment reflects the complexity of the SSI offset calculations.  As noted in the original post, I rarely get involved in SSI claims and when I do take cases, I am focused on winning benefits.  Calculating the offsets requires a different skill set.</p>
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