Call Today: 1-800-890-2262

Ginsberg Law Offices

alleged onset date

How to Choose the Right Onset Date for Your Disability Claim

alleged onset dateWhen you apply for disability benefits, one of the first questions that Social Security will ask you is “when did you become disabled?” or “what onset date do you want to use?”  Social Security calls this date your alleged onset date and it will be used throughout the course of your disability claim.

Interestingly, many of my clients tell me that this question caught them off guard – what date should they choose? Sometimes, as we approach a hearing date I may discover that we have to change, or amend, the onset date. But, as you will see, it is much better to choose the right onset date early on as opposed to changing it later.

What is the “Best” Onset Date for Your Disability Claim?

Social Security will find that you are disabled if the symptoms arising from your medical problems make it impossible for you to work. Thus, your onset date ought to be the day when you could no longer perform the duties of any type of work even a simple, entry-level job. Continue reading →

What Does it Mean When a Judge Wants to Change Your Onset Date

As I noted this past November, I am starting to see more instances when a judge will want to change the “onset date” for my client’s disability.  What does this mean and should you be concerned?

Your onset date (called your Alleged Onset Date or AOD by Social Security) represents that date that you allege that you became disabled.  Usually your AOD will be the day after you last worked, although in some instances I have been able to argue for an AOD that was two or three months prior to my client’s last day of work if my client had changed from full time to part time, if the job had become a “make work” situation or if my client was missing days or parts of days.

Similarly, I have tried cases in which the AOD was several months after the last day of work.  This happens when a person is laid off because his employer is cutting staff and the medical evidence shows that the employee’s disability began at some point after the layoff.

In general, however, as rule of thumb, the last day of work is a good choice for your Alleged Onset Date.

Why, then, would a judge change your onset date?  Usually, a Social Security judge will try to associate your onset date to a specific medical treatment record.  For example, if the basis of your disability is back pain and an MRI showing a herniated disc is dated September 28, the judge may choose September 28 as the onset date.  Obviously in this example, your disc was herniated on September 27 and probably on August 27 and July 27 as well, but September 28 is a date on which there is objective evidence of a medical problem consistent with your testimony. Continue reading →

Onset Dates, Consultative Exams and Cynical Judges

When you appear before a Social Security judge for a hearing, there are four possible outcomes:

  1. you will be approved
  2. you will be denied
  3. your case will be continued to another date for a supplemental hearing
  4. the judge will issue a “partially favorable” decision

GavelOver the past couple of years I have noticed an increase in the number of partially favorable decisions I am receiving.  I think this is because my clients, especially low income clients, do not have access to regular medical care and judges are using consultative exam reports to move the alleged onset dates.

Here is an example of what I mean:  a couple of weeks ago, I tried a case before a judge who is generally considered to be very reluctant to approve cases.  At the time of the hearing my client was a month shy of her 52nd birthday.  She had a 10th grade education and past work as a short order cook.  She alleged disability due to uncontrolled diabetes, numbness in her feet and hands, vision issues and pain.

She last worked 3 years previously, when she was 48 years old.

In reviewing this case, I saw it as a “grid rule” case.   Grid rule 201.10 provides that a 50 year old claimant with less than a high school education, semi-skilled work but no transferable skills who was limited to sedentary work due to an exertional limitation would qualify for disability. Continue reading →

Does Trial Work Period Start as of Onset Date or After Expiration of 5 Month Waiting Period?

I just got a fully favorable ruling from an ALJ, but the onset date has been amended.  Without going into a huge amount of confusing detail, I was supposed to get a partially favorable for a closed period, instead I now have a fully favorable with onset date starting Nov. 15, 2007.  To prevent losing my house, I had to start working some.  I am wondering if my trial period starts aftr the 5 month waiting period which would begin in April, or would the trial working period begin with the onset date?
–Jim

Jonathan Ginsberg responds: Jim, I believe that the trial work period starts as of your onset date.  The 5 month waiting period only has to do with payments.  I wrote about trial work periods on a fixed page on this blog – take a look by clicking on the link.

You should also speak with your lawyer about whether to appeal the decision.  If the judge stated on the record that he identified a closed period, and you start working, you may find yourself with a continuing disability review or an action to terminate benefits.

You only have 60 days to appeal a decision and you could lose your right to the closed period lump sum if you do not appeal.  Maybe it makes sense to appeal and maybe not.  I just think you need counsel about this issue and that you need to be proactive.

Top