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How Do I Fire my Disability Lawyer?

My question is this.  I had a lawyer in NC for my disability hearing which I lost. His representation was horrible, not to mention his communication with me. Anyway, I told him I no longer wanted his services for my appeal. He said he would file a form with SSA stating that he was not my lawyer. I ask him to send me a copy 3 weeks ago. He did not. I emailed him again and ask him if he had even sent the form. he sent me a very rude reply with no answer.
I need to let SSA know that this man is not my lawyer. I called and they still have him listed. How do I get him off as my lawyer? He obviously isn’t going to cooperate. He is horrible. Some advice????
Robin

Jonathan Ginsberg responds: As a disability claimant, you have the right to terminate the representation of your attorney.  The attorney doesn’t need any special form to withdraw from representation – all he needs to do is write a letter to Social Security advising them that his attorney relationship with you has ended.   I do not practice in North Carolina but I suspect that under the Bar rules there, your lawyer has an affirmative obligation to withdraw if you have terminated him.  In order to avoid confusion, you should send your lawyer a letter using certified mail, return receipt requested, asking him to notify Social Security that he is no longer your representative.

I would also suggest that you look carefully at the fee contract you signed with your lawyer.  Often the standard fee agreement used by most disability lawyers also allows the lawyer to ask Social Security to approve a fee based on time expended.  Further, be aware that if “Lawyer 1” has filed a form 1696 Appointmetn of Representative, any subsequent lawyer you hire – “Lawyer 2” – will need to file a fee petition setting out exactly what he did and how much time he spent.  The fee petition process is much more time consuming and intrusive than the simple 25% fee agreement system.  I mention this because some lawyers will not take a case if a prior lawyer withdrew and will not waive fees.

Finally, make sure that there is no confusion as to who has the duty to file appeals or respond to communication from the Appeals Council.  You do not want to miss an appeal or file double appeals forms because this issue was not cleared up.

It is unfortunate that your relationship with your lawyer deteriorated.  It is much easier to part ways on a friendly basis.  At this point, however, you may best be served by communicating with your lawyer in writing only and by spending a few extra dollars on certified mail.

Two Disability Claims Pending and Nothing is Happening – What Can I Do?

My husband has Osteonecrosis (AVN), it is death of bone condition in both shoulders and both hips.  We initially hired an attorney in April 2003, claim was denied and it is in the Hearing Stage in Virginia.  We had to reopen a new claim in 2006.  We attached all information needed, even information from the National Assn of Osteonecrosis (this is a relatively new condition).  The claim filed in 2006 was denied once, but to date no other information.  We just called our attorneys office this week.  They are constantly saying in both claims "things are the same", nothing has changed.  Can you please help us?  Our medical bills are piling up. Prescriptions are expensive, etc.
–D

Jonathan Ginsberg responds:  D, there is no simple answer to your question.  It appears that you have two claims in process – an appeal to the Appeals Council (the Appeals Council is located in Falls Church, VA, which is what I assume you mean by "the Hearing Stage in Virginia") and a 2006 claim filed in Georgia, where you now live.

Claim #1 will cover the time period from alleged onset through the date of the first administrative law judge hearing and Claim #2 will cover the time period from the day after your administrative law judge hearing and on-going.

Here are a couple of observations:

1)  Social Security claims take a long time.  The two Atlanta hearing offices are the slowest in the country – it can take two years or longer between the time you request a hearing and the time a hearing is scheduled.  Your attorney has no control over this.  It is not fair, it is not right, but this the current situation in the Social Security Administration.

Let me also say that there is an effort by SSA to deal with these delays – they are increasingly using video hearings from a National Hearing Center to reduce the backlog – see this press release from SSA.

2) With regard to the case at the Appeals Council.  If you have a case at the Appeals Council or in Federal Court, expect to wait and wait and wait.  You could be looking at five years or longer.  Recognize that at the Appeals Counsel or federal court, the judges are looking at possible errors of law or analysis by the hearing judge.  Appellate judge rarely substitute their decision for the decision of the ALJ.  Instead, they are looking for situations where the hearing judge used the wrong standard or the wrong analysis.  Usually a successful appeal concludes with the appellate judge sending the case back to the ALJ for a new hearing to be decided under the correct standard.

3) My guess is that your claim #2 will be decided much sooner than claim #1 and that any money to be paid will be paid in claim #2 long before payment in claim #1.

Does Trial Work Period Start as of Onset Date or After Expiration of 5 Month Waiting Period?

I just got a fully favorable ruling from an ALJ, but the onset date has been amended.  Without going into a huge amount of confusing detail, I was supposed to get a partially favorable for a closed period, instead I now have a fully favorable with onset date starting Nov. 15, 2007.  To prevent losing my house, I had to start working some.  I am wondering if my trial period starts aftr the 5 month waiting period which would begin in April, or would the trial working period begin with the onset date?
–Jim

Jonathan Ginsberg responds: Jim, I believe that the trial work period starts as of your onset date.  The 5 month waiting period only has to do with payments.  I wrote about trial work periods on a fixed page on this blog – take a look by clicking on the link.

You should also speak with your lawyer about whether to appeal the decision.  If the judge stated on the record that he identified a closed period, and you start working, you may find yourself with a continuing disability review or an action to terminate benefits.

You only have 60 days to appeal a decision and you could lose your right to the closed period lump sum if you do not appeal.  Maybe it makes sense to appeal and maybe not.  I just think you need counsel about this issue and that you need to be proactive.

Lawyer Claims He Withdrew But I Did not Know About it and Missed a Deadline

What do you do when the attorney you hired did not file your appeal on time and did not notify you until the last minute.  He says that he sent a letter out but I never got it.  Now I have to reapply all over again.
–Barbara

Jonathan Ginsberg responds:  Barbara, at the very least it would appear that there was a lack of communication between you and your lawyer.  As you know, Social Security gives you only sixty days to file an appeal after the date on your denial notice.  You have also learned from this experience that lawyers do not have to go through any formal process to withdraw from representation.  Unlike state or federal court, where a lawyer has to file a motion to withdraw, a Social Security lawyer need only send you a letter and send the Social Security Administration a letter and his representation is over.

In your situation you might want to file the appeal anyway and ask that it be accepted for "good cause."  Include a letter with your appeal stating that there was a communication mix-up with your lawyer and request that your late filed claim be accepted.  At the same time go ahead and start a new application.

For others reading this, take heed that you should ask your lawyer to send you a copy of any appeals filed so that you will know what is going on.  Further, keep track of your appeal deadlines.  If you don’t have a copy of a filed appeal in hand as you approach the appeal deadline, and you can’t get hold of your lawyer or someone in his office, go ahead and file your own appeal paperwork – if you lawyer is not communicating with you he will have to straighten out any duplicate filings.

Claim Approved “On the Record” With Amended Onset Date – Should I Appeal the Changed Onset?

Jonathan, I was recently approved for ssd by the ALJ. I had my 3 heart attacks, the last on May 5, 2005.   At that time I became disabled to work. This has been my Doctors statement all along. Like a lot of people trying to get ssd, my financial situation got serious. I filed for an "on the record review" and after 6 months recieved a full favorable decision.

However they moved my onset date to Jan. 1 2006 and did not explain why. I had worked the first 3 months of the 05 and made about 26,000 dollars. When I applied thru the Hospital that took care of me, they also applied  for Medicade and SSI.

Now I cannot get an answer from the SSI people if they are going to pay me for the months of Jan-May ’05. It seems to me to be ploy to keep me from appealing the AJL decision until the 60days are over and then deny me the SSI benefits. Can you give me your 2cents worth on what you have seen the SSA do to people in this situation?

–Bob

Jonathan Ginsberg responds:  Bob, a couple of thoughts occur to me.  First, when you say that someone at the hearing office changed your onset date, you need to make sure that you are not confusing the "five month waiting period" with a changed onset date.  In a Title II disability case, you do not get paid for the first five full months of disability.  In your case, if the onset was May 5, then you would not get paid DIB benefits for the remainder of May, June, July, August, September, or October of 2005.   Your first check would be for November, 2005.

If your onset was moved to January 1, 2006, then you would not get paid until June, 2006 as the five month waiting period would start in January.

A claimant can, by the way, get paid SSI during that five month waiting period – although, remember, SSI is an income and resource dependent program – if your spouse works or if you have any sort of significant resource, you may not be eligible for SSI at all.

Let’s assume that someone in the AJL’s office identified this case as an on-the-record candidate and did, in fact, change your onset date from May 5, 2005 to January 1, 2006.  Often this happens because the staff attorney at the ODAR (Office of Disability and Review) did not see specific evidence in your record that your condition was "disabling" until January 1, 2006.  Some judges (and by association their staff) will not assume anything into a record.  Logically, if a person has a third heart attack, a reasonable person would assume that the patient was not particularly healthy between the time of heart attack #1 and #3.  However, if the medical record does not specifically talk about activity limitations until the time of #3, then some judges will conclude that the patient’s condition did not get really bad until heart attack #3.  It is silly and ridiculous, but it happens.

You can appeal a favorable decision but the risk is that a hearing judge might reverse the decision entirely.  Obviously, if you do appeal, you will want to get a narrative report or a form filled out by one or more treating doctors to support your May 5 onset date.

By accepting the amended onset date, you are giving up six months of benefits.   You have to decide if the risk of an outright reversal and the time and energy investment is worth the risk.  Generally I am not inclined to appeal a partially favorable decision but I have had clients do so.

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